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Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
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Autor:  Albea [ Mar Noi 15, 2011 9:50 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Salut tuturor!
Am o Albea din 2007 si in toamana asta de cateva zile,dimineata,nu mai vrea sa porneasca la mai putin de 3-4 sau chiar 5 chei :? .
La prima cheie nu porneste sub nici-o forma(nici macar un rateu).
La adoua cheie da sa porneasca dar moare imediat.
La urmatoarele chei porneste dar nu se poate accelera ca moare ,si nici ea nu se accelereaza singura.
Intr-un final cu putin ajutor din acceleratie incepe sa isi intre in parametri si merge fara probleme.
Mentionez ca are aproximativ 40oooKm,si inafara de ce am schimbat la reviziile periodice,nu am schimbat nimic,nici ,bujii nici acumulator...nimic inafara de consumabilele uzuale(ulei ,filtre).
Multumesc anticipat pentru lamuriri.
Autor:  Florin [ Mar Noi 15, 2011 11:19 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Salut ,
Este bine sa inlocuiti bujiile si fisele mai ales ca intram in iarna si trebuie inlocuite la 40.000 km .
Problema cu pronirea grea ar putea fi de la benzina proasta ,acumulatorul nu invarte suficient sau cel mai probabil este un semn ca pompa de benzina nu mai functioneaza asa cum trebuie . Incercati sa puneti contactul de 3 -4 ori inainte de prima pornire ,daca porneste mai repede inseamna ca trebuie sa inlocuiti pompa de benzina .
Autor:  Albea [ Mie Noi 16, 2011 9:05 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Am mai citit si alte poastari in care recomandati punerea contactului de cateva ori si am experimentat si eu in dimineata asta.
Am pus contactul de 4 ori innainte de prima pornire si...surpriza ,a pornit la sfert,acum ma gandesc sa nu fi fost si ceva cu benzina ca am realimentat in seara precedenta.
Maine dimineata incerc o pornire din prima si daca nu o ia la sfert inseamna ca pompa de benzina face figuri.
Multumesc pentru raspuns ;) .
Autor:  Albea [ Joi Noi 17, 2011 1:10 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
:cry: paradoxal astazi nu am mai repetat treaba cu contactul de cateva ori si a pornit la sfert :?:
Acum chiar ca este o dilema(sa fi fost din cauza benzinei?).
Autor:  Florin [ Joi Noi 17, 2011 2:11 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Autor:  Albea [ Vin Noi 18, 2011 10:09 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
:? In dimineata de astazi,fiind mai rece nu a mai pornit(nu am pus contactul de mai multe ori).
Dupa prima incercare fara nici un rateu macar,am pus contactul de mai multe ori fara rezultate semnificative.
Dupa mai multe chei a pornit dar murea imediat,iar daca incercam sa o accelerez la fel,murea imediat.
Dupa ce am reusit sa o stabilizez nu mergea rotund ba avea si niste zgomote(rateuri),dupa ce am accelerat-o de cateva ori si-a intrat in ritm si a functionat fara probleme.
Acum cu ce sa incep inlocuirile,cu pompa sau cu bujiile?
Puteti sa-mi dati si niste preturi estimative?
Autor:  Florin [ Vin Noi 18, 2011 1:24 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Salut ,
Daca bujiile au mai mult de 40.000 km trebuie sa le inlocuiti conform graficului de revizie . Pompa de benzina este mai scumpa ,cea mai ieftina si corecta varianta este sa masurati presiunea de benzina inainte de prima pornire . Exista un ceas pentru masurat presiunea chiar si cu motorul pornit , asa puteti vedea exact cum lucreaza pompa de benzina ,daca ridica presiunea mai greu sau daca in sarcina scade trebuie inlocuita .Cel putin demontati pompa si verificati sa nu aibe ,unu din furtune sparte sau oringul de fixare poate nu etanseaza bine si scapa presiunea in rezervor .
Autor:  Albea [ Vin Noi 18, 2011 1:59 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
:roll: Multumesc!
Acum am doua dileme:
1.Cum masor presiunea innainte de prima pornire?
2.Pompa de benzina unde este situata,se poate demonta in regim casnic sau doar intr-un atelier specializat?
:roll:
Autor:  Florin [ Vin Noi 18, 2011 4:05 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Salut ,
Pompa de benzina se poate demonta si acasa daca aveti cheia pentru demontarea piulitei . Ridicati bancheta din spate si o sa vedeti un capac negru prins in suruburi ,demontati acest capac si o sa vedeti rezervorul deasupra este montata pompa de benzina .Practic este in rezervor ce se vede sus este piulita care o fixeaza si conductele de alimentare ale motorului .
Presiunea de benzina se masoara din rampa de injectie cu un ceas special ,care are la un capat o mufa speciala care se clipseaza in mufa dupa rampa de injectie . Trebuie sa fixati ceasul in rampa dupa care puneti contactul si vedeti ce presiune are cand puneti contactul ,porniti motorul si vedeti la cat se ridica presiunea sau urmariti sa vedeti daca atunci cand nu porneste presiunea este mai mare sau mai mica de 2,5 bari . In functie de asta stabiliti daca pompa de benzina baga suficient .O sa va atasez cateva imagini poate intelegeti mai bine .O imagine cu mufa masinii si o imagine cu ceasul fixat in acea mufa . Pe masina mai are un capacel rosu sau negru care protejaza mufa de praf .
Autor:  Albea [ Sâm Noi 19, 2011 8:58 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Pornire la 3-4 chei dimineata,la Albea.
Multumesc Florine,nu ma asteptam la o asa explicatie.
In prima faza am sa verific pompa vizual dupa care tre sa caut un atelier cu un ceas sa imi verifice presiunea.
Va tin la curent cu evolutia lucrurilor.
Cand vin in Bucuresti va caut sa bem o bere ;)
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