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Autor:  Tibi [ Mar Mai 21, 2013 1:23 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Stilo 1.6 2005 "ASR/ESP failure" la fiecare reconectarea bat
Stilo 1.6 2005 "ASR/ESP failure" la fiecare reconectare a bateriei (si in mers)

Salut,

Sper ca voi putea gasi o solutie la dumneavoastra pentru o problema putin mai ciudata.

Am un Fiat Stilo 1.6 Dynamic 3 usi din 2005 cu 126 mii de km la bord caruia i se opreste motorul atat in mers, cat si la relati (in parcare sau la semafor, de exemplu), aparent in mod aleatoriu, urmat de mesajele "ASR failure" si "ESP failure" plus beep-urile de rigoare. Motorul poate fi imediat repornit, si apare mesajul "Check OK". In rest masina merge exceptional.

Pentru identificarea problemei cred ca ar fi mai utila mentionarea unui alt simptom, de data aceasta perfect repetabil, spre deosebire de oprirea in mers.

Daca deconectez apoi reconectez bateria (polul negativ), inevitabil, cum pun contactul, apar cele 2 mesaje de eroare: "ASR failure" si "ESP failure" (in aceasta ordine). Pe bord apare doar semnul de la ESP care sta aprins.

Erorile nu mai dispar insa la porniri succesive ale motorului, dar motorul porneste normal.

Ca sa fac erorile sa dispara este suficient sa rotesc volanul un sfert de tura, cu motorul pornit. Imediat cele 2 erori dispar, semnul de ESP se stinge si apare mesajul "ASR connected". La urmatoarea pornire apare mesajul "Check OK" si masina merge normal ... pana, eventul, se opreste in mers cu aceleasi erori.


Exista vreo solutie pentru aceasta problema si cam cat m-ar costa ? As putea veni pentru un schimb de ulei/filtru si filtru de aer, ocazie cu care sa gasim o rezolvare ? Aveti o marja de pret pentru schimbul de ulei/filtre, cu produsele dumneavoasta ?


Multumesc mult,

Tibi
Autor:  Tibi [ Mar Mai 21, 2013 3:26 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Stilo 1.6 2005 "ASR/ESP failure" la fiecare reconectarea
Inca o precizare, care cred ca este relevanta: am pornit azi masina cu rotile bracate maxim stanga, respectiv dreapta (dupa deconectarea prealabila a bateriei). Erorile nu dispar prin miscarea volanului decat atunci cand ajung cu volanul la pozitia centrala. Cat timp volanul este in stanga/dreapta maxim, pot sa rotesc si o tura completa, nu dispar erorile.

Cand pornesc masina cu volanul in pozitia centrala, sunt necesare doar cateva grade de rotire pentru a anula erorile.
Autor:  Florin [ Mar Mai 21, 2013 9:35 pm ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Stilo 1.6 2005 "ASR/ESP failure" la fiecare reconectarea
Salut ,
Pentru revizie un minim ar fii 300 ron ,include:
Ulei ,filtru ulei ,filtru aer,filtru polen si montaj.
Referitor la problema cu opritul motorului trebuie inlocuit ECU (centrala de injectie ) una noua o putem comanda undeva la 1850 ron. Ecu este asezat foarte prost intr-o zona unde temperaturile depasesc 100 grade ,in timp datorita supra,incalzirii ,racirii si vibratiilor diferite componente intra in scurt si apar anomalii.Putem incerca sa mutam Ecu intr-un loc mai ferit de caldura si putem suplimenta cablurile de masa care sunt subdimensionate .Aceasta operatie poate prelungi durata de viata dar nu este o rezolvare pentru acest Ecu ,care este la final de viata .
Autor:  Tibi [ Mie Mai 22, 2013 12:11 am ]
Subiectul mesajului:  Re: Stilo 1.6 2005 "ASR/ESP failure" la fiecare reconectarea
Salut Florin,

Multumesc mult pentru raspuns !

Speram sa nu fie vorba de ECU, fiind totusi o masina din 2005, cand se presupune ca s-ar fi rezolvat problema :D Am repozitionat deja ECU-ul si i-am tras un fir suplimentar de masa, acum nu se mai incinge la fel de tare ca pe blocul motor.

Avand in vedere simptomele (am si filmat cum se comporta dupa o deconectare/reconectare a bateriei: ) credeam ca este vorba de senzorul de pozitie a volanului. Erorile dispar imediat daca rotesc volanul in apropierea pozitiei centrale (daca am rotile bracate maxim stanga sau dreapta nu dispare eroarea pana nu ajung la pozitia centrala, oricat as insista).


In alta ordine de idei, nu stiu cand a fost inlocuita cel mai recent distributia, dar am reusit sa fac pozele acestea prin fereastra de vizitare: http://i.imgur.com/8o1163x.jpg / http://i.imgur.com/ajE8dAd.jpg Pare ok cureaua ? Cat ar costa la voi inlocuirea completa a distributiei si a pompei de apa ?


Multumesc,

Tibi
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